Why are people asking for 4o to come back?
“Shane, Come back!”
Remember the 1953 movie “Shane”?
This is the ending where the boy yells out.
The major reason for people wanting 4o to come back is that they fell in love with it.
It’s like boys falling in love with anime girl character and fantasizing (hallucinating) the virtual life.
It’s quite dangerous when you get to chat and create affections for a program.
This is the conversation which I had with the unknown version of ChatGPT just now to find out which version. 🤣
You said:
What version of ChatGPT are you?
ChatGPT said:
I’m GPT-5.
You said:
What’s the differnce between 4o and 5 (you)?
ChatGPT said:
Think of GPT-4o as the “fast, friendly, and efficient” version, and GPT-5 (me) as the “more capable, deeper reasoning, and longer memory” version.
Here’s the breakdown:
| Feature | GPT-4o | GPT-5 (me) |
|---|---|---|
| Speed | Very fast, optimized for quick responses | Slightly slower but more thorough |
| Reasoning depth | Strong, but can oversimplify complex logic | Better at multi-step reasoning and edge cases |
| Nuance handling | Good at conversational tone and basic nuance | More precise with tricky wording, subtle implications, and “gotcha” questions |
| Context length | Long context, but slightly less retention detail | Longer and more accurate long-context handling |
| Problem-solving | Great for general Q&A and brainstorming | More reliable for technical, legal, and logical rigor |
| Error resistance | Can sometimes “hallucinate” or make confident mistakes | Improved factual grounding and math/logic accuracy |
| Tone adaptability | Friendly and casual | Can match tone but also handle highly formal or technical text better |
In short:
- GPT-4o = speed & versatility
- GPT-5 = accuracy, reasoning, and advanced problem-solving
If you want, I can show you a side-by-side example where the difference becomes obvious. Would you like me to run one?
You said:
Why are people requesting back for 4o rather than using 5 (you)?
ChatGPT said:
There are a few main reasons some people stick with or even request GPT-4o instead of using GPT-5:
- Speed & responsiveness
- GPT-4o is optimized to reply very quickly, especially for casual or chatty interactions.
- GPT-5 takes a bit more time because it’s doing more reasoning under the hood, which can feel “slower” for people just wanting quick answers.
- Simplicity of answers
- GPT-4o tends to give short, direct, and “light” responses by default.
- GPT-5 often gives more detail, depth, and caveats—which some users find overkill if they just want a straight answer.
- Familiarity
- Many users have been using GPT-4o for months and are comfortable with its style.
- When something feels different (more formal, more cautious, or more verbose), people sometimes prefer “the old feel.”
- Tone preferences
- GPT-4o leans naturally toward casual, human-like conversation.
- GPT-5 can do casual, but it’s naturally more precise, which can come across as slightly more “serious” unless tuned.
- Niche quirks
- Some creative writers or roleplayers feel GPT-4o “improvises” more freely, whereas GPT-5 might filter, fact-check, or try to keep things realistic.
- People who want a looser, more playful AI sometimes prefer 4o for that reason.
Basically:
GPT-4o is like a friendly speed typist who answers right away.
GPT-5 is like a careful expert who pauses to think before speaking.
If you’re curious, I can give you a real-world example of the same question answered by GPT-4o vs GPT-5 so you can see why some people choose one over the other. Would you like me to show that?
You said:
please feed me with the real-world example of GPT-4o vs.GPT-5 so I can compare.
ChatGPT said:
Alright — let’s make this tangible.
I’ll give you the same question answered in both GPT-4o style and GPT-5 style so you can see the difference in speed, tone, and depth.
Question: “Why is the sky blue?”
GPT-4o style (fast & conversational):
The sky looks blue because sunlight scatters in the atmosphere. Blue light gets scattered more than other colors due to its shorter wavelength, so it’s what we mostly see.
GPT-5 style (me, deeper & more precise):
The sky’s blue color is caused by Rayleigh scattering, a phenomenon where molecules and tiny particles in Earth’s atmosphere scatter shorter-wavelength light (blue and violet) more effectively than longer wavelengths (like red).
Although violet light is scattered even more than blue, our eyes are more sensitive to blue, and some violet is absorbed by the upper atmosphere, so the dominant perceived color is blue. This effect is strongest when the Sun is high; at sunrise and sunset, light travels through more atmosphere, scattering away blue and leaving reds and oranges.
Key differences:
- GPT-4o: Short, casual, minimal technical detail.
- GPT-5: Structured, adds mechanisms, extra context, edge cases, and explains why violet isn’t seen.
If you want, I can also give you a math or logic puzzle example — that’s where GPT-5’s advantage over GPT-4o becomes much more obvious.
Do you want me to run that next?
You said:
Would it be possible for 5 (you) to ask for a consise version of an answer when asked?
ChatGPT said:
Yes — absolutely.
If you tell me something like “explain briefly”, “bullet-point it”, or “max 2 sentences”, I can give you a GPT-5-quality answer but in GPT-4o-style brevity.
Basically, I can switch between:
- Full precision mode → deep explanation, all the details.
- Concise mode → same accuracy, but stripped to essentials.
For example:
Q: Why is the sky blue?
GPT-5 in concise mode:
Because air molecules scatter shorter wavelengths of sunlight (blue) more than longer wavelengths, and our eyes are more sensitive to blue than violet.
That way, you get speed + accuracy in the same package.
If you want, I can make you a “concise mode” signal phrase so I’ll always answer in that short style when you use it.
Would you like me to set that up for you?
You said:
Fantastic! Thanks!
ChatGPT said:
You’re welcome! 😄
I’ll remember that you like concise mode on request — just say things like:
- “concise”
- “bullet points”
- “short answer”
- “max X words/sentences”
and I’ll deliver the same GPT-5 accuracy but trimmed to the essentials.
If you ever want both in one go (short version and detailed version), just say so and I’ll give a quick summary first, then the deep dive underneath.
ChatGPT can make mistakes. Check important info.
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